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I want to raise what appears to be a foundational contradiction inside Microsoft’s RAG- and agent-based frameworks.
In a controlled experiment, I demonstrated that ChatGPT Web — with zero RAG, zero vector store, zero retrieval, zero agents — achieved a completely deterministic risk-control loop across repeated iterations:
- no hallucination
- no drift
- stable decision paths
- reproducible reasoning
Demo (4min):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgHvAkcBINs
This suggests something important:
**Reasoning stability may not be an information-retrieval problem at all
(as RAG assumes), but a structure/constraint problem at the expression layer.**
If true, then a bottom-layer LLM can be stabilized without retrieval pipelines, without chunking, without graphs, and without agents.
Which raises two fundamental questions for Microsoft:
**1. If base models can already operate deterministically without RAG,
what is RAG fundamentally optimizing for?**
The common justification is “reduce hallucination through grounding.”
But in this experiment, hallucination = 0 with no retrieval at all.
**2. If reasoning stability originates from expression constraints
rather than retrieval, does GraphRAG solve a problem that may not exist?**
Graph construction, multi-hop traversal, scoring, entity linking — these all assume LLM instability comes from lack of external knowledge.
But the experiment suggests the opposite:
instability emerges from lack of structural constraints, not lack of information.
Request for Microsoft Engineering Team
I am requesting an official technical clarification:
- Is Microsoft aware of scenarios where retrieval is unnecessary for reasoning stability?
- If so, what is the architectural rationale for continuing to build RAG-heavy frameworks like GraphRAG and AutoGen?
- If not, how does Microsoft interpret the deterministic behavior shown in the demo?
This is an important research question, and I would appreciate an engineering-level explanation.